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Question asked 2020-11-07 12:51:11 ...
Most recent comment 2020-11-10 18:09:57
Oil Paint
Hello –
First, thank you MITRA for providing such a wealth of information and expertise. I have greatly improved my craft by reading your resources and forums.
My question is not addressed in your resources articles. It is: can MSA (acrylic which is not water-based) be added to oil paint with no appreciable archival concerns? The scenario I am thinking of is if the oil painter paints thin and allows the surface to be touch-dry before applying the next layer. If this is possible, I think it would help in achieving one of my goals in terms of perceived depth and luminescence, similar to Maxfield Parrish, but lasting longer.
At least one commercial provider, Lukas, offers it, albeit with dammar, and it is advocated in other art technical materials discussions.
If it is possible, what are the other process steps or materials which need to be considered?
Thank you.
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(brian baade)
Hi all,
I have taken an internet break since the evening of the election. I will respond to this tomorrow.
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(brian baade)
Sorry for the delay.
I would suggest against using such an additive in oil paint
for many of the same reasons that I do not recommend adding dammar or mastic to
oil paint. No, MSA is not going to yellow nor become brittle overtime but,
honestly, those are my lesser worries.
MSAs will impart their solubility to oil paint in proportion
to the amount added. One of the good things about MSA varnishes and other approved
synthetics is that they remain soluble in solvents of a similar polarity/aromaticity
over time. This is great since when the coating needs to be removed, it can be
done using solvents that are less likely to damage the oil film. When these
materials (natural and synthetic resins) are added to oil paint they GREATLY increase
the chance that the painting will be irretrievably damaged if they ever need to
be cleaned. Please see #5 on our Myths, FAQs, and Common Misconceptions downloadable pdf found in our resources section.
If you feel the need to experiment with MSA varnish (or any
soluble resin) as a paint additive, please make sure that you record this info
somewhere (safely, not drawn on the back of a canvas, etc.) on the reverse of
the painting (preferably on the stretcher bars if it is on fabric).
Finally, I would advise against varnishing such works and
recording this fact (as above) so that no one inadvertently tries to clean it
with solvents. This would not occur if the painting is being treated by conservator who would do all sorts of tests,
but my experience is that there are just way to many DIY “restorers” out there.
Their misguided efforts are the reason for about half of the conservation
treatments that we receive.
I would really suggest using one of the more fluid alkyd
painting mediums for your attempts to reconstruct the richness of Parrish’s
glazes. Yes, he did sometimes use dammar in his layers, but he also often used
copal varnish/medium as his additive. While the later will darken and perhaps impart
brittleness, they at least become less soluble over time.
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(brian baade)
Even if this were the case, and I am not sure that it is,
the increased solubility would vastly outweigh any benefits that could be
derived.
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(brian baade)
OK
It is interesting in that MSA could be considered a
synthetic soft resin like dammar whereas an alkyd medium is a synthetic
resin-oil medium analogous to copal-oil. Their handling and aging properties as
quite different, though.
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